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Post by 'aj Garan, Son of Rajuc on Nov 20, 2008 15:03:44 GMT -5
Anyone care to share their opinions or views about the upcoming Star Trek XI movie. This is the place to do it.
So far a few trailers, images and some storyline material has been released to the public for viewing.
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Post by Captain Rheis Iparo on Nov 24, 2008 22:02:08 GMT -5
Sure, Admiral Garan, I'll take a stab at it. ::Laughs::
I like to think that I have not grown so old that I am no longer open minded.
I would like to be able to go and see this movie and judge it for what it is. Either good Sci-Fi or not.
Like many I was initially put off by the design of the new Enterprise. There was another image on the web of a redesigned Enterprise, and I was under the imprression it would be that, or something like that, Not the departure of design I saw.
The ship was pictured at a bad angle. when I saw other pics it became a little more palatable.
Many of us "Trek Nurds" are put off by the design and the overall premise of the storyline, and especially their lack of adherence to strict canon.
Yes, this is totally out of sync with the original TOS timeline. I could go on and on about that, but we've all heard all about that.
To play Devil's advocate for a moment, This is a new breed of writers doing this, and a new crew. J.J. Abrams wants to have his own vision, his own take on the story. Abrams is not Roddenberry, and Chris pine is not Shatner.
Can we really expect these people to sit and consider every minute detail of every show, series and movie? And make sure the SL of the movie coincides with everything? Maybe if we still had Gene, Matt Jeffries, and D.C. Fontanna there. But this is no longer the case.
Yes this inot the Kirk we knew. Not Stafleet's Poster boy. This one has to grow into the command chair. Even canon sources have stated that Kirk was a precocious child.
I do frown upon hearing about the scene where Kirk hides in Uhura's quarters and watches her undress. ST has never relied on sex, and should not have to.
Which brings me to another pint of contention. I saw a promo pic of Uhura taking off her top, and she is in a bra. The bra looks like any bra you would see today. So the message I'm getting here is, that while mankind has developed warp drive and all these weapons, bra technology appears to have come to a screeching halt.
You'd thing by then, the uniforms would have some sort of containment field, that would take care of all that. Which would be advantageous. If you had a female officer with you on an away mission, and encountered a dampening field, you'd know right away.
But seriously. I think the think that has turned me off the most with all this, is articles that bloggers are writing, saying things like: "This is not the movie the Trekkies want" and "This is not your Father's Star Trek"
It sounds to me like they're calling Trekkies "Old farts" In another Article, Abrams was quoted as saying "This is not going to be a geekfest"
I'm trying to have an open mind. Let's face it, we all know people who are "Canon Nazis". Even if Abrams adhered strictly to canon, these Nazis would still pick it apart and find fault with it , so why bother worrying about getting every detail from TOS just right? The man has a right to have his own vision and do his own take on this.
I just feel like He's spitting in the Treklkies faces and saying: "Sorry, nothing here fo you". And I think that sucks. Why not embrace us? We have been waiting years for this, anxiously reading updates and blogs, only to be told as Trekkies, "Sorry this isn't for you".
It is possible I am taking it the wrong way, but everytime I try to have an open mind about, I read an article and someone says something stupid.
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Post by ra'wI' Sara Katang on Dec 4, 2008 11:16:58 GMT -5
That is the issue right there reading articals that people write. If you don't exsperance something for yourself and make judgements on those exsperances then you have the risk of letting others govern your life choices. Lets faces it I'm sure the founders of Trek never intended their vision to be so obscured to lose the humanity in it and that is what the new film is going to do. Lose touch with the humanity in it.
There is no pyslisophical undertone, no need to cannonize it, and absloutly no need to change the system as it stands because of this movie. It is a vision of one man of what the fuchure will look like based on todays principles. Not the movement to unify people of all genders, creed, and race like the 60s verisons of Trek really wanted to do.
He is not some grand writer either to Hollywoodize a beloved treasure of the Trekkie universe. This will not be the first nor the last series that has been imortalized by a large following that will be currpted by corperate greed and Hollywood ideals.
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